2018-12-05 kdb+ WG Minutes
Table of Contents
Date/Time
December 5, 2018. 11am ET
Attendees
Name | Organisation |
|---|---|
@Alvin Shih | Morgan Stanley |
@Rob Underwood (Deactivated) | FINOS |
Jason Foster-Bey | JP Morgan |
Sam Eberspacher | (individual) |
Action Items
Tasks Identified and Assigned
Task Report from the Last Meeting
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Decisions Made
Agenda
Time | Item | Who | Notes from the Meeting |
|---|---|---|---|
5 min | Convene & roll call. | All |
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5 min | Review and approve minutes from last meeting. | All | Approved by acclamation. |
5 min | OSR. Updates on access to GitHub / Atlassian? |
| Jason: JPMC blocks http://atlassian.com . Jason will try from his laptop. Alvin: Administering Google Groups? If I try my work email, it tells me, "Couldn't find your Google Account.". @Rob Underwood (Deactivated): Suggested emailing help@finos.org and CC @Maurizio Pillitu with any blockers. (Update 2018-12-27. Have to administer through help@finos.org for now.) |
5 min | Discuss suggested kdb+ WG roadmap emailed by Sam on 2018-11-29. Any volunteers to maintain that as a Wiki page? | All | Sam: Will put the expanded charter and roadmap the Wiki based on what he'd emailed to data-tech-kdb ahead of the meeting. Sam: Doesn't think we should be in the business of picking winners and losers. Alvin: Is editing of the charter / roadmap on the Wiki a voting item? Rob: Doesn't think so. |
15 min | kdb+ WG participation. What about kdb consulting firms with open source code bases? DEVnet (Exxeleron) or AquaQ (TorQ)? | All | Alvin: Do participants in FINOS have to be members? Rob: Anyone with a signed ICLA can participate. Membership confers different benefits such as proposing new programs and voting. For example, will be led by Clovyr which is not a member. Sam: Will try to get Ryan Hamilton of TimeStored in touch with Rob. Sam: We should document our efforts to build community, do reach outs. Jason: Reached out to Igor at RBC regarding kdb+ WG, but he's been keeping a low profile. Try to increase participation by having multiple representatives from the same organization? Alvin: Curation / gating of code? What if there are divergent opinions on direction? Rob: Up to the "committers" to deny pull requests. Working Group lead decides who the committers are. |
15 min | How to get more code out there? |
| Rob: Citing "First 90 Days", he'd like to see something attention-getting made available. Sam: When we work on fundamental areas, like module loader, can get tricky to navigate it. Alvin: A bit of a chicken and egg problem. A couple of ideas: default security handlers, dbmaint. Alvin: How to put the documents / code out for evaluation? Perhaps a "contrib" / "incubator" area. Rob: Should have a call with Maoo about a repo for ad-hoc contributions. Probably by function rather than by company. Alvin: Should "work in progress" get merged into master to make it easier for interested parties to see what people are working on, albeit in rough form? Rob: Discoverability of work in progress subordinate to keeping a level of quality on master. Jason: Agrees with Rob. Suggests that README.md points to branches / forks for those who want to get involved with code that's not ready for wide consumption. Sam: People can fork his fork to fix up things like namespacing, etc. Rob: GitHub users who aren't on a CCLA won't be able to pollute the fork. There's a bot that checks. |
10 min | Discuss namespace recommendations as emailed by Sam on 2018-12-04. | All | Sam: Java's "strongly opinionated" about namespaces and possibly too verbose. His emailed proposal assumed that q does not provide an aliasing mechanism to allow multi-component names to be shortened to something more manageable. Alvin: Replied to the email showing how aliasing can be implemented in q. |
5 min | AOB | All |
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