2018-08-09 Financial Objects WG Meeting Minutes

Meeting minutes status: Approved (on 2019/07/25)

Table of Contents

Date/Time

2018-08-09 12:00pm US-EDT

Attendees

NameOrganization
Hammad AkbarCiti
Will QuanJPM

Rob Underwood

FINOS

Tosha EllisonFINOS
Alexandra StratigosFINOS 
John LinAB
Marmik ShahAlliance Bernstein
Johan SanderssonFactSet

Outstanding Action Items

Task report

Looking good, no incomplete tasks.

Agenda

TimeItemWhoNotes from the Meeting
5 minConvene & roll callBB09061@imcnam.ssmb.com
20 minProgram Update and new participants

Hammad Akbar

Welcome John, Seth, Kirin.

  • Helpful to have new buyside.
  • Hoping to build out community.  
  • FO seems to fall into all other Programs and in a good place.
20 min

RFQ Working Group Status Update

Review of RFQ request

  • Objective is to minimize request flow.  
  • As get closer to execution & settlement may need to be more prescriptive.  
  • Use case is trader requesting set of info.  
  • Don’t want them to have to repeat what can be defaulted
  • MVP structure for RFQ.  

Tosha: Can enrichments be added or will always have to be customized?

Nick: How does FINOS play part to move to codification?

2nd scenario - Order side

  • Trade requested (see amber colored print format)  
  • Similar to RFQ except specific to Order
  • Opening proposal, open to further discussion.  
  • What addtl fields or attributes should be included?  
  • How to put structure together?  
  • Where are boundaries for RFQ, Trade order, settlement type use cases?
  • Validation should be - can be used in real life workflow?  
  • Can request be executed or completed

Question:

Is this IOI or actual order?

  • Take IOI and assume separate flow, define attributes and either separate or keep together and maintain as other use case.  
  • Take IOI as another type of use case.
  • Market & limited order need placeholder to review as additional use cases/scenarios

Hamad:

What should fields/attributions really be called?  

  • Current terms are for WG only right now.
  • This area can be cleaned up going forward
  • How best to represent this information?
  • Wiki works now but will get more complex.  

How to capture & represent.

  • Asset class?
  • Products?
  • Use case?

Rob: Needs to be discussed within FINOS.  In general needs to be easily accessed in FINOS website.  

General idea:

  • Users can  find/navigate things that are useful.  
  • Improve info architect, searchability

Specific area:

FINOS to provide documentation/tool where people can easily understand & see in concrete terms.  Want to get right with this WG first which can lay foundation for other programs


Additional notesTosha Ellison
  • Trade product identifier IRS can also be ambiguous.
  • Can you default some of the defaults per counterparty.
  • What is part of the overall RFQ or are you looking terms between two specific counterparties?
  • Maybe it’s an instruction set can define the terms for a specific transaction or transaction type
  • Take and IOI as a separate flow, see if there is enough overlap, collapse if possible or keep as an independent use case if not. Take IOIs as another use case.
  • How do the attributes get defined? Compare against some other standards?
10 minAOB & adjourn

Hammad Akbar


Decisions Made

Action Items

Hamad:

Requested feedback/input on:

  1. objects themselves
  2. how represented
  3. creating reference library that is easily consumable & maintainable

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